It's that time again, time to clean out the old brain of those thoughts. Thoughts that as one doesn't make a post but put them together......
My sister-in-law's husband passed away this past week. She had his remains cremated and buried in his family's plot. Yesterday she had a funeral mass in his memory. There was no visitation or hoopla that goes with burying a loved one, just the mass. I found it simple but unsettling hence I talked with a good friend of mine about it. Her husband is a funeral director and she was able to give me some insight into the cost of burial. She told me that to have a funeral mass in the catholic church runs about $500 dollars. Doesn't matter how much time or money you have given the church, or that you are in a pew every week, it's going to cost; rental of the church, payment to the priest, payment to choir director, payment to have the body brought to the church, etc. I get why she did what she did (he died of brain cancer and his face/head was distorted by the tumors, and the medical costs has put a financial strain on her family) but I'm having a hard time dealing with the whole church thing. As a catholic, one of the sacraments you are entitled to is this mass but now I realize it comes at a financial cost to my family. Just seems like it's something the church would be willing to do since you've put in your time and money to them.......
Something else that has bother me since last night, he was only five months older than me........
School has been in session for the past month now. I have several new students, all cuter than hell. Even the little girl who informed me that "I was wasting her time." WOW a five year old told me that! Can't wait to see what she's like in a few years.....
This morning I had the family get all my fall decorations (including Halloween and Thanksgiving) from the attic space. It's been too hot here to think that it's fall so the boxes sit in the garage, waiting. But as I was handing down box after box I was thinking how I have too much crap. Way too much crap. I love decorating for the seasons, but I'm thinking it's time to scale back some. Just not sure how and to make it worse, when I go into the stores, I see something and think oh that would be cute! Oh and I'm going on a few weekend trips these next few months, which will include shopping. Thinking I'll need to learn to say no to myself ;o)
Things have been happening around here that has put all of us in a good mood. Can't go into details, you know being in the witness protection program and all (yes Peg that was in reference to you) but things just seem to be falling into place for everyone. Is it sad that I keep waiting for the 'bottom to drop out'? I know that I should be thankful for the good fortune that has been happening (and I am) and go with the flow, but parts of me has this fear that it's all going to come crashing down. I found this on facebook and I've tried to let this be my matura:
I'm off to let life happen and maybe put out a decoration or two.


So sorry about your brother-in-law. I am unaware of any church rental fee for funerals for members in my church, but it is customary to pay something to the preacher. My own funeral will be simple, simple, simple. My sister in law's father just died, and his cost $12,000.00. I cannot abide that...
ReplyDeleteI have a grown son at home, too! He moved back in several years ago when my husband took a powder--I think he worried about me. So far it is working out well. He is such a help and at the moment neither of us see the reason to change things. I suppose when it is time, it will happen. C.
Thanks for stopping by!
DeleteI agree that simple is the best. I've always found comfort in a nice funeral mass and thought it would be nice for the family to find comfort in mine when the time comes. I'm now rethinking that thought...
Yes, it's so hard to relinquish control, or the feeling you should sometimes be in control. I have to say that many people who are fatalistic seem happier, but I am just not that type of person.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame the church isn't prepared to find the cost of something small to repay the years of devotion. I'm not a catholic but my in laws on one side are and they had a mass said for my mother,after her death. I had no idea it would cost them money to do so. I should have made more of it then. Well, I guess we live and learn.
Jenny, having a mass said for someone dead and a funeral mass are two different masses. However I think if your in-laws found comfort in that mass, it was worth what money they had to spend. Though my understanding for a mass to be said is minimal in comparison to the cost of funeral mass.
DeleteI know clear as dirt if you're not catholic ;o)
That's tough about a church "costing" for a funeral. I think in our church (not Catholic) that you give a small donation for their time, but it's not a requirement.
ReplyDeleteAs for a happier mood, I'm very jealous! Things have hit a new low around here and I'm not looking forward to a meeting that I need to have with a certain daughter in law this morning... I'm keeping a diary.
On a different vein, I've got to hear your story about dead silence when you've tried to be funny!
Val, I'm told many a priest will donate their part of the money to the church.
DeleteHope all goes well with the DIL, it can so be a touchy situation.....
As for the dead silence story and being funny just keep in mind, I live in a house full of men :o)
I'm so sorry for your loss Bonnie.
ReplyDeleteBut i admit to giggling at this comment of yours"just seems like it's something the church would be willing to do since you've put in your time and money to them......."
Bonnie, meet the Catholic church. I am sure annulment was invented by them due to the high cost of one. In my Catholic experience, which was way too long, I don't think they do anything for free. Even last rites. My Aunt paid for last rites because she wanted her priest not the one from the hospital.
Peg, I wasn't a cradle catholic so many of these things are foreign to me. HOWEVER I remember in those RCIA classes the topic of sacraments and how special they are to a catholic. My sons were baptised, made first communion, and confirmation without me having to give the church any money beyond the cost of the classes. Seems like when one is at the end of their time on earth, this should be free too.....
DeleteI'm sorry about your BIL. That is so sad and I'm not even going to tell you what I think about organized religion as a whole. I will just say that I'm sending you a hug and hope that you find peace about the entire situation soon.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm all living in the "bottom will fall out" mode. I feel safe there. ;p
Sonya Ann, I'm not a big on organized religion either. That said I do find comfort in the rituals of the catholic church. I know oxymoron for sure.
DeleteI think I'm there with you at the bottom, and yes it's safe there ;o)
Love the words of wisdom. I'd have to find a life in order to let it happen!
ReplyDeleteThe cost of funerals and burials and all that dying entails, is very costly. I'm not the least bit extravagant in life, so I'm sure not going to waste the money when I won't be around to enjoy it. Just cremate me.
My condolences on your loss.
Cora I so agree! What happens to me after my death should be decided by my family because they will be the ones who will have the most comfort by it. It's just sad that what should bring the most comfort to them will cost.
DeleteYour fears are understandable Bonnie, but hold the faith that life will continue to be calm and blessed.
ReplyDeleteWeekends away! Mmm sounds like some good posts out of that statement.
Condolences to BIL family - a sad time for sure. Bonnie the costs you mentioned re the Catholic Church re the funeral were very interesting and piqued my curiosity. My beloved was a devout Catholic and we had dealing with several Catholic Churches in Queensland, New South Wales and Tasmania - none of which charged a cent for weddings, or funerals. A donation was always welcomed, but in our experience not expected or a formal charge. So, a little feedback from across the oceans!
(Lovely to hear nice things are happening in your world to put everyone in good moods)
Have a lovely week dear Bonnie.
R.
Thanks Rose!
DeleteThat's interesting that you don't even have to pay for the church for weddings. I remember when hubby and I got married we had to put a deposit down to the church in order to guarantee that we would have the church on that date. Never was the word donation uttered.
Yes I have two weekend aways trips in the planning. One with hubby and another with my best girlfriend. Looking forward to having the time away from it all and of course I'll blog about it ;o)
Oh yes I'll expect some trip-blog posts! Time away from the norm is always nice!
DeleteThat's a lot to pay for a funeral. I am a buddhist so not sure how it is done here in the church. As for as we believe in cremation so only the cremation cost.
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